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EP 17  •  31 min  •  Season 1

Offloading The “Job from Hell” Built My Law Firm | Fireproof Part 3: World of Integrators

Mike Morse ran his law firm as the Visionary and the Integrator for 12 years.. he didn't know there was another way to do it.

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Mike Morse ran his law firm as the Visionary and the Integrator for 12 years.. he didn’t know there was another way to do it.

He set the firm’s direction and worked the daily grind of every detail to achieve that vision. Which works fine… until it completely collapses.

The moment Mike finally brought someone in to run the operation, he saw what he’d been missing plus his firm grew from 27 employees to 300.

What we covered:

→ The exact point to hire your first integrator

→ What actually separates a visionary from an integrator

→ Why alignment matters more than friendship

→ How personality testing changes who you hire

→ The wish list that grew Mike’s firm from 27 to 300 people

The biggest takeaway: the people who build the biggest things are rarely the ones running them day to day.

Chapters

00:00 Intro

01:41 What a visionary and an integrator actually do

05:32 The right time to hire your first integrator

08:39 Why the integrator runs with the vision, not their own opinion

10:40 The wish list that took the firm from 27 to 300 people

13:50 Why alignment matters more than friendship

18:36 Personality testing and finding your integrator through your network

21:27 The traits that separate a visionary from an integrator

22:53 Knowing what you don’t like versus what you’re not good at

29:07 The steps to find your integrator, starting from square one

Connect with Mike

https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeljmorse

https://www.instagram.com/855mikewins/?hl=en

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